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    Posted: 01 Oct 2009 at 6:32pm
Hello, thanks for reading and giving input!

I recently got out of the Air Force and started applying for IT contractor positions in the DC area. I was given several offers and took the best one for me. In the interview I was told this was a contract expansion so I asked when they would know if they got it and I was told that they did have it but they didn't know how many positions they were going to hire because the contract gave them an option.

So I get an offer and accept it. THREE weeks later (a couple of days before I think I'm starting) I get an email from the company telling me that they didn't get the contract.

Being that they told me I was applying for a position and that my offer letter didn't say anything about this being contingent on a bid, can anything be done to them?

Everything worked out or me, I got a better paying job and all, but I know there were other people who they "hired" in the same manner.

Are there any laws against these types of actions?

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No...why would there be? They thought they could offer you a position, things changed and they could not. Move on...you said you had other offers, try going back to them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bille2021 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2009 at 2:32pm
I understand that business is business, and I'm not worried about my situation, I'm over it. I just feel that the government should require them to notify potential employers that the offer is contingent on a bid going through. In my case I turned down other offers and I was notified three days before I thought I was starting. My offer letter also stated that I was to remove my resume from any job boards and I should stop seeking employment.

My problem is with the people that aren't fortunate enough to be in a career field that allows them to find a position with in a week. Not everything can be fair, but intentionally puting someone in that situation should be illegal.

Just my opinion.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RocketCity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2009 at 12:17pm
Billie:

A good, reputable company would have stated that the offer was contingent in the offer letter.
Your post exposes that the company you almost worked for wasn't a good reputable company.
It's good that you found out now rather than later.

I applaud your concern for others who got burned, but they, like you, will find their way to another opportunity.

Good luck!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bewelle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2009 at 3:34pm
Honestly, I would just view this as a learning opportunity and be grateful for it.  In my previous life, I hired LOTs of contractors.  Some tell their candidates it is a contingency offer, others, just assume the candidates know.  In a few instances, 2 companies proposed the same candidate and I'd have to call them on it.  In my current situation...waiting for a long time for my clearance to be adjudicated...I am looking for some short term contract work until I can start.  I was contacted by SIX companies all wanted to offer me the same work.  Of course, that's not how it was presented initially...but as I said...I have been at this awhile and I know the game, so I asked them....and they said...well, yeah, Company X uses lots of preferred vendors. 
 
That's how they roll.  Geek
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Haven't companies been sued over that. I recall reading an article some years ago talking about the legal ramifications of offers and accepting them. They were talking about how in some rare instances people who had accepted offers in private industry had been sued after accepting then backing out at the last minute,and how some people had sued businesses that had given them an offer for a job,had them move half way across the country,and then pulled the offer.

  Then again,the whole contractor thing is usually a whole different ball of wax. I don't know how government contractors work,but I know all the contract employment I have done in the private sector was very clear in all the documents I signed that I worked for the contractor and as such,only worked if their clients had work for me,otherwise I was SOL. If its the same for you,I think that's their out,they would say,with some level of justification,that whether they have work for you only one day,only one week,only one month,or none at all,that's how the contract cookie crumbles.
 
  Still,that's a sleazy way to do business.


 Bewelle,your a lot more optimistic than I. I think some tell their candidates,others just assume they know,still others hope they don't so they can lock in the best candidates who otherwise would get offers someplace else.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Will Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 11:33am
Did some research on this a few years ago.

For most states you work "at will" mean you can be fired at anytime for any reason, there are some exception race,sex,age etc, and you can also leave at any time.

Lawsuit wise you are out of luck for that since they hired you they can fire you at anytime, that you were out of a job does not apply.  There have been cases where a person moved across the country and was fired a few days later and that did not apply since  under "at will" you could of been fired at any time.  The exception is Pennsylvania and IIRC California who have some laws preventing this time.

Where you have cases that have been won by the employee are when the company knew before hand that the job was going away and hired the person anyways or had the person move anyways.

The best chance of lawsuit would be because the company did not follow the employee handbook when firing you.  Courts in most states have ruled that employee handbooks are a contract.  If you have a signed contract and they did not follow the employee handbook you could probably make the case that you were an employee and the contract was not hired.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NotSure Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 4:37pm
You have legal standing if their offer letter didn't state it was contingent on a contract, you relied on the letter, turned down other offers, and now are still unemployed. An employer who made an offer to people at my grad school for the summer had to honor it for the above reason.

However, since you are now employed, you come off as lawsuit happy. Trust me the company losing the contract probably hurt them alot more then not being to honor some hirings..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NotSure Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 4:37pm
You also could write a bad review of them on glassdoor and similar sites..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote frankgonzalez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 6:00pm
detrimental reliance is the issue you need to research.  You would  then have to prove you out of pocket expenses created as a result of your reliance on their "promise" of a job.
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