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mil2fbi 
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 Topic: High cost of living = roommate?Posted: 04 Nov 2009 at 1:06pm |
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All,
Have a hypothetical question. If selected to a big office (and possessing a TS clearance), where the COLA does not quite offset the standard of living, is it possible to have a "random" roommate? (Random implying that he/she may or may not work with your agency, may or may not have a clearance, and may or may not be someone you've known for a while.) Also, would said roommate have to be vetted first, and/or would you have to request permission to live with said person?
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Colibri
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 at 2:13pm |
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Ummm...we do live in the USA and not the Soviet Union or North Korea
 Just because you are a fed with TS doesn't mean you give up freedom of association. I see you are ex-military who needs to deprogram yourself from the brainwashing, so I'll be gentle. Unless your roomie is an illegal alien, foreign spy, or a major criminal your agency can't tell you who you can associate with.
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the rock99
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 at 3:44pm |
Actually, it does mean that you give up some freedom of association. If you choose to associate with certain people, you can certainly conttinue to do so, but your "freedom of association" can cost you your clearance, and ultimatley your job it it requires the clearance.
Most agencies have a roommate form that you will have to fill out, your roommate will have to sign it agreeing to a limited background check and if they refuse or if something is found, you will be told to find another roommate or another job.
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mil2fbi
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 at 4:06pm |
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Colibri - Harsh. lol.
therock99 - That's what I was thinking.
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Newonhere11
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 at 6:09pm |
A roommate form? |
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computerscott2
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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 at 3:00am |
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Check with your security officer. You will have to be careful who you select. There are rules about these things and also for working part-time to help offset the costs, etc.
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Knight
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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 at 4:41am |
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Forms for off-duty work I knew about but room mates ... wow. But it makes some sense depending on your job/clearance. Sad world that we live in that we can't live our lives without worrying about who we talk to, meet or associate with. I like to travel and have covered the globe. I spent 3 hours going over all my foreign travel with the BI guy and then when he called me for a follow up he asked why I didn't tell him I have an active Visa for China. I said the form asked about past travel, China was 8 months away so I haven't gone yet.
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PERSEC
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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 at 10:01am |
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They're called a Co-inhabitant check and are run in certain circumstances, esspecially if the roommate is foreign. For example, to get my current clearance they had to run a brief background check on my wife. They would have run it anyway if she was just my girlfriend living with me. This is usually in the SCI realm.
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waltersont
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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 at 12:44pm |
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I have had a TS/SCI/SSBI for 9 years now. During that time, I have had at least 6 roommates. Not once have I seen or heard of a "roommate form" (that made me giggle a little). Not once, to my knowledge, have the feds run a background on my roommates. Legally, they cannot run a background with out the roommates signature on a disclosure form, which I have never heard of.
Yes, you must report them on your initial 86, but that doesn't mean they do a check on your roommate. They only want to chat with your roommates to find out YOUR character traits.
I think there's a little to much koolaid going around...
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the rock99
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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 at 1:44pm |
Many agencies, including the FBI, require you to have roommates agree to a background check, not just for spouses or those in spouse like relationships. If your agency requires that you report this and you haven't been you could potentially have your clearance revoked.
"In accordance with the investigative standards for holding TS or SCI access to classified information, individuals who marry or live in a spouse-like relationship between the time of a completed initial investigation and the five- year reinvestigation are required to have a NAC completed on their spouse or cohabitant. This also applies for the time between a periodic reinvestigation and the subsequent five-year reinvestigation. The employing agency is responsible for requesting the Spouse/Cohabitant NAC. "
Edited by the rock99 - 05 Nov 2009 at 1:48pm |
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