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parafrog8654 
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 Topic: can a ptf refuse?Posted: 14 Nov 2009 at 9:39pm |
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i worked 4 days in a row at another office about a month ago.
that office's steward approached me and wanted me to give him my exact clock rings to make sure i got payed was how he put it.
about 3 days later my sup called me in and told me that the other office's steward was filling a grievance against me.
damn pig back stabbin snakes! that office called me!
i would like to get ahold of that steward out in town. its the fact that he tried to snake me instead of being truthful!
coward!
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DoItTheRightWay
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Posted: 15 Nov 2009 at 3:51am |
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You really do need to get a life Parafrog.
The Union can only file a grievance against management and not against another employee.
You also need to tone down your rhetoric. That's twice you've threatened others and I wouldn't doubt it if these sites are policed...
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parafrog8654
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Posted: 15 Nov 2009 at 1:47pm |
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thats not a direct threat!
and my post master told me the griev was against me. i know who he filed it against the management.
obviously you missed the whole point!
he should have told me why he wanted my hours, instead of telling me it was to make sure i got payed. he should have told me the truth.
just another story to solidify that we are in a bussness full of ratts!
don't you agree> Edited by parafrog8654 - 15 Nov 2009 at 1:48pm |
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RAPUNZEL
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Posted: 15 Nov 2009 at 4:29pm |
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the steward couldv'e and should have just gotten clock rings on you from a supervisor..
he probably has someone not getting enough hours in his office and is grieving that to management..it is not about you, it is about the hrs worked in their office...
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NECArrier
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Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 3:40am |
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It probably feels like the grievance is "against" you, but it is not. The union doesn't file grievances against it members but rather for its members. So if you were a PTF in the office that called you, you might be saying, "why is that guy from another office getting those hours and $$ that should be mine?!!" The steward is working for the employees in his office, as he should. It is management that the grievance is against, they are the ones that made the mistake of calling someone to their office instead of using the employees actually assigned there.
On the other hand, the steward could have been more forthright with you and he certainly could have gotten the clock rings from mgt instead of asking you.
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parafrog8654
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Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 2:28pm |
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Exactly necarrier.
on another note. my uniform allowance is finally going to happen.
today was my last day before my 6 day break. ( 2nd one in 2 weeks)
anyways, i turned in my 600 miles of milage and sup faxed off my clothing allowance to vendors.
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jwra1682
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Posted: 27 Nov 2009 at 5:52pm |
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Pretty sure PTF's are only able to go to different offices if it is a multi-office installation. They cannot ship you around to other offices out side your installation. You are not a TE.
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parafrog8654
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009 at 6:59pm |
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i am a te
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rich1mc1
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Posted: 29 Nov 2009 at 12:19pm |
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Parafrog,Iknow your speaking the truth when you said your postmaster said it was against you,but that is only a tactic management use's to try a place the blame elsewhere,and what beter way of playing you against your fellow workers than to place them as accussing you .It is not in the union way to charge you for something that management is resposable for.They ordered you,and it is your job to follow orders.The union realizes this.It only showed that they violated the terms of the contract by using your hours as proof.You are required to follow any lawfull order they give you.Contract articals are not law,so if you are ordered to break an artical do so then greive it,they did the wrong not you.
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CalzoneSC
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Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 8:38pm |
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Just my .02
I'm a ptf Last year i was sent to a station to drive a truck for a week cuz all their truck drivers had the same vacation time heh. anyway i nailed them everyday for Vtime and they were cool over there... they just let us do our thing and that was that. So to those who cry about being sent else where, heh just follow your instructions... it could turn out well for u in the $$ in my station we have another ptf on a hold down that gets bumped... and our sup. calls in her favorite TEs earlier than the ptf getting bumped... and this is just on straight hours... i believe that's a grievance that our union is filing... anyway, point being follow your instructions... the union is there for your protection... let management be in the wrong... they're always gona try... so let them.. just say okay boss.. heh we're dumb carriers anyway right? Be safe all! |
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