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Mugician 
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 Topic: NOW NSPS IS OUSTED, HOW DO EMPLOYEES RETURN TO GS?Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 9:29pm |
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It's not so simple, because NSPS rules will not be used to determine the conversion back to GS.
How are they going to do this? Some people who were GS-11 when they entered NSPS are now equivalent to GS-12 (pay wise) AND have maxed out on GS-11 (step 10). Do they become GS-11 again? Or do they become GS-12, why? |
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baron90
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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 11:15pm |
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Your grade is not assigned to an individual, it is assigned to the position. So determining where you will fall, they will have to first determine the grade of the position then see where your salary falls. If your salary is higher than step 10 of the grade you will receive retained pay, if it is lower it will be whichever step meets or exceeds your current salary.
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Sylvia's Bell Jar
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Fonz
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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 at 3:38am |
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These are all good questions and none of us have the answers.
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First information from Human Resource Office indicates NSPS actions (evaluations, intermediate reviews and such) will continue until we are transitioned back into GS. We have been told GS rules will be used to establish our conversion to GS; so if position has language establishing GS equivalent grade or old GS grade it should be easier.
Bill states employees will not lose any money when they transition; however some might be at upper steps of GS pay scales. I would expect OPM might need to establish special GS pay scales for those at upper step of GS or pay that exceeds step 10 of pay scale upon convering to GS. IMO biggest problem will be the timing of transition; if for example NSPS employees are placed into GS with less than 90 days remaining prior to end of GS evaluation period (GS-12 and below is 31 October) they will not ‘get’ an evaluation for 2010; first evaluation of record will not occur until 1 November 2011, so no recognition for performance from 1 Oct 2009 till 1 Nov 2011 |
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Mugician
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If you were a GS-11 and the agency offered you an NSPS position equivalent to GS-9 (step 12) in 2007. But there was no documentation whether the position was a GS-9 or GS-11. In 2010 you are going back to GS. Will you be GS-11? or GS-9? Which regulation will support the answer to this question? I would think the employee should be a GS-11 considering NSPS is a piece of $$$HIT and the employee has been in it for several years.
cannot be offered a position where the quote: |
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I hope not! I came from a GS9 into a YA position that tops out at GS12 step 10 pay. Because it was considered a lateral, I only recieved a 5% increase. I am still not above a GS11 step 4 in pay. So I would go right back into a 9 position (according to the referenced rule set). The only way it would work is if they converted the position to a 9/12 position.
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Mugician
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The simplest/fairest way to deal with NSPS-GS converstion is whatever the highest grade you held under GS you go back to that grade, IF your current pay is HIGHER than your previous pay.
Next you would be given a particular step that would match your current pay. If you max out on the GS pay scale, then the new exceptional rules should come in - call it "GS reconversion pay". |
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Mugician
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Regulations:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=06cab9b041ee9a0b01d3dcdc67dfb8d9&rgn=div8&view=text&node=5:3.0.56.11.1.3.107.33&idno=5 Thanks for posting the regulations. I think this part of the CFR answered my question: (v) Notwithstanding paragraph (d)(1)(iii) of this section, an employee's virtual GS grade may not be less than the permanently assigned GS grade the employee held upon conversion into NSPS (for an employee who was converted as described in §9901.371), unless, since that time, the employee has undergone— (A) A voluntary reduction in band or reduction in base salary; (B) An involuntary reduction in band or reduction in base salary based on unacceptable performance and/or conduct; or (C) A reduction in band based on a reduction in force (RIF) or classification action. (vi) If the employee's adjusted salary exceeds the maximum rate of the highest applicable GS rate range for the highest grade encompassed by his or her assigned pay band, the employee's virtual grade will be that highest GS grade. |
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